Atyraudaghy Qúday jolynda qúrban bolu iydeyasyna túnshyqqan jastardyng jarylystarynan son, Almatyda din qayratkerleri jinalyp shahid bolu iydeologiyasynyng qateligi turaly dóngelek ýstel ótkizdi. «Abay» aqparattyq portaly úiymdastyrghan otyrysqa dintanushylar men zangerler - Múhan Isahan, Ermek Múqatay, Ermek Bekbosynov jәne «Iman» jurnalynyng redaktory Onghar qajy Ómirbek pen basylymnyng jauapty hatshysy Keulimjan Quttiyev, sayasattanushy Aydos Sarym qatysty. Otyrysqa jinalghan din ókilderi men dintanushylar shahid bolu iydeologiyasynyng qateligi turaly oilaryn jan-jaqty bayandady. Mәselen, olar býgingi islamdy sayasatpen, qoghammen, qazaqtyng mentaliytetimen baylanystyryp sóiledi. Oqyrmangha týsinikti boluy ýshin, biz dóngelek ýstel basyndaghy әngimeni yqshamdap, sol kýiinde bergendi jón kórdik.

Múhan ISAHAN,

Zanger, dintanushy:

- Islamda músylmannyng ózine-ózi qol saluy nemese jaryp jiberui eshqanday shahidtikke jatpaydy. Shahid - din jolynda kýresu jәne qan keshu. Al ózin-ózi jaru - intihad dep atalady. Ol islamda kýnәning eng auyry sanalady.

Atyraudaghy Qúday jolynda qúrban bolu iydeyasyna túnshyqqan jastardyng jarylystarynan son, Almatyda din qayratkerleri jinalyp shahid bolu iydeologiyasynyng qateligi turaly dóngelek ýstel ótkizdi. «Abay» aqparattyq portaly úiymdastyrghan otyrysqa dintanushylar men zangerler - Múhan Isahan, Ermek Múqatay, Ermek Bekbosynov jәne «Iman» jurnalynyng redaktory Onghar qajy Ómirbek pen basylymnyng jauapty hatshysy Keulimjan Quttiyev, sayasattanushy Aydos Sarym qatysty. Otyrysqa jinalghan din ókilderi men dintanushylar shahid bolu iydeologiyasynyng qateligi turaly oilaryn jan-jaqty bayandady. Mәselen, olar býgingi islamdy sayasatpen, qoghammen, qazaqtyng mentaliytetimen baylanystyryp sóiledi. Oqyrmangha týsinikti boluy ýshin, biz dóngelek ýstel basyndaghy әngimeni yqshamdap, sol kýiinde bergendi jón kórdik.

Múhan ISAHAN,

Zanger, dintanushy:

- Islamda músylmannyng ózine-ózi qol saluy nemese jaryp jiberui eshqanday shahidtikke jatpaydy. Shahid - din jolynda kýresu jәne qan keshu. Al ózin-ózi jaru - intihad dep atalady. Ol islamda kýnәning eng auyry sanalady.

Bizding biylik elde lankesterding bar ekendigin býginge deyin jasyryp kelgen. Biraq songhy jaghdaylar, yaghny ózin-ózi jarghandardyng bәri biylikting jýrgizip otyrghan sayasatyna qarsy ekendikterin ashyq aityp otyr. Múny Sәt Toqpaqbaev ta moyyndap, elde terrorizmning belgileri payda bolghanyn baspasózge bayandady. Osy arada bir nәrseni ashyq aituymyz kerek, yaghny Atyraudaghy jaghday bizding memleketting din mәselesimen kýresude mýlde tәjiriybesiz ekendigin kórsetti.

Aydos SARYM,

Sayasatanushy:

- Dindegi jankeshtilik qazaqtyng mәdeniyetine qanshalyq jaqyn? Mysaly, bizding anyz-ertegi, dastandarymyzda shahid bolu turaly jazylmaghan ghoy. Endeshe dindegi múnday nadandyq bizge qaydan júqty?

Sayasattanushy retinde búghan deyin elge kirgen islam aghymdarynyng qauip-qateri turaly kóp aitqanbyz. Biraq sózimizge eshkim qúlaq aspaghan. Endi kóresini qarapayym halyq kórip otyr. Biraq elde islamgha dúrys kózqarastyng qalyptaspaghanyn moyyndaghanymyz jón. Mәselen, orys tildi baspasóz islamdy әli qúbyjyq qylyp kórsetedi. Oghan Qazaqstannyng «shash al dese, bas alatyn» ospadar zany qosylyp, mәseleni ushyqtyrdy. Mine, Atyraudaghy jarylystardyng birinshi sebebi - sol. Yaghny 7-shi baptan tútandy ghoy.

Ermek MÚQATAY,

Dintanushy:

- Shahid bolu arabshadan maghynasyn búzbay audarghanda «syrtqy kýsh tarapynan óltirilu» degendi bildiredi. Al ózin-ózi jaryp, ólimge baru shahidtikke jatpaydy.

Jihad mәselesine kelsek, islam tarihynda eki kezeng bolghan. Bireui - Mekke kezeni, ekinshisi - Mediyne kezeni. Mekke kezeninde payghambarymyz Mekkeden Mediynege kósherden búryn jihadtyqqa rúqsat bergen. Búl arada jihad pen hattala (soghys degen sóz - Avt.) ekeui eki basqa. Jihad әuel basta islamdy uaghyzdau maqsatynda qoldanylghan. Al hattala degen sózimizding maghynasy Qúranda tolyq aitylghan. Ol bylay: eger syrttan bireuler saghan soghys ashyp kelse, qolyna qaru alyp qorghan degen. Arab tilining sózdik maghynasynda jihad «kuәger» degendi de bildiredi.

Aydos SARYM,

Sayasattanushy:

- Jaraydy, payghambarlarymyzdyng zamanynda shahid mәselesi býgingidey jabayy týrde jýrmegen shyghar. Biraq bizdegi ózine-ózi qol júmsau qaydan shyqty dep oilaysyzdar? Mәselen, diny lankesterding oshaghy bolyp otyrghan keybir elderde shahid ólimge tughan-tuysqandary quanatyn jaghdaygha jetipti. Óitkeni shahid ólimmen kóz júmghandardyng arghy dýniyedegi ekinshi ómirleri turaly týrli әngime kóp. Mysaly, «olardy arghy dýniyede ýr-qyzdary kýtip otyrady eken», «beyishting núry shalqyghan júmaq qarsy alady-mys», «Qúday aldynda súraq-jauap bolmaydy» degen siyaqty «kepildikter» aitylady. Osynday sózder, tanym, týsinik qaydan shyqty?

Múhan ISAHAN,

Zanger, dintanushy:

- Islam - taza jәne kemeldi din. Biraq ózin-ózi jaru jәne basqa jabayylyqtardyng bәri ózge diny aghymdardyng әserinen payda bolghan. Mәselen, VIII-IX ghasyrlarda, yaghny ismailitterden búryn kaysaniya degen diny aghym payda bolghan. Ózin-ózi jaru - sol hayzaniyalardyng әreketi. Qysqasy, búl búzylghan din.

Ermek BEKBOSYNOV,

Zanger, dintanushy:

- Shahid - qazaq tilinde sheyit boludy bildiredi. Dinde shahid boludy ýsh topqa bóledi. Birinshisi, taza Qúday jolynda shahid bolghandar. Yaghni, Qúday jolynan auytqyghan aghymdarmen kýreste qaza bolghan dindarlarymyz. Ekinshi topqa diny әri dýniyauy shahidter jatady. Ýshinshi toptaghylar músylman bolghandarymen túrmystyq dengeydegi sanadan aspaghandardyng dýniyauy ólimderi. Shahid sózining jihad sózimen baylanysy bar. Aytalyq, jihad sózi әleumettik, psihologiyalyq, әskery qorghanys maghynasyn beredi. Zanger retinde aitarym, qylmystyq qúqyqta «qajetti qorghanu» degen bolady. Búl túrghydan aitqanda, syrtqy kýshten qorghanu zandy sanalady.

Áskery әrekettegi jihadqa sýnnetten dәlel izdeytin bolsaq, payghambarymyz Medinagha kóship baryp, memleket qúrghannan keyin ghana payda bolghan. Oghan deyin, yaghny әskery әreket payda bolmay túryp jihadqa rúqsat berilmegen. Ábu-Hanifa mashabynda da jihadty memleket basshysy ghana jariyalaugha tiyisti. Jeke top jihad jariyalaugha zang boyynsha da, din boyynsha da qúqyqty emes. Óitkeni payghambarymyzdyng ózi jihadqa syrtqy kýshten, dúshpandardan qorghanu maqsatynda barghan ghoy.

Ermek MÚQATAY,

Dintanushy:

Islam dininde fatyq pen jihadty dúrys týsinbeushilik bar. Fatyq - jenis degen úghymdy beredi. Payghambarymyz bir hadiysinde «halifattyq menen keyingi otyz jyl, odan song saltanat bastalady» depti. Osy sóz kóp jerde әli dau tughyzyp keledi. Yaghni, halifattyqty dindegilerding ózi qantógis retinde týsinedi. Islam tarihynda dinning qanat jangyna sayasy kýshter kóp kedergi keltirgen. Fatyq joryqtary sol sayasy kýshterge jәne kәpirler ýshin jýrgizilgen. Jihad sózine soghys dep qaray almaytynymyzdy aittyq. Biraq bizdegi teris aghymdar ony soghys dep týsinip, Qúday jolynda qúrban boludyng mәnin búzyp otyr. Atyraudaghy jaghday - osy.

Qasiyetti Qúranda eshqanday tirshilik iyesin óltiruge bolmaydy dep jazylghan. Al ólim jazasy tek sharighat sottarynda qylmysyna qaray berilgen. Qúrannyng taghy bir sýresinde jazyqsyz bir adamdy óltiru býkil adamzatty óltirumen birdey, al bir adamdy qútqaru býkil adamzatty qútqaruday sauapqa ie bolady delingen. Diny ekstremizm sayasy jәne qúqyqtyq sebepten oryn alatyny әlemdik tәjiriybede aitylghan. Islam ghylymda da moyyndalghan din. Tek bizding elde óz dinimizdi nasihattau joly dúrys emes, әtten!..

Onghar qajy ÓMIRBEK,

QMDB-synyng baspasóz hatshysy:

- Qúranda qolynan da, isinen de eshkimge zalaly tiymegen adam ghana músylman bola alady dep jazylghan. Adamnyng jany - Allanyng amanaty. Oghan qiyanat jasau eki dýniyede de opaly is bola almaydy. Qysqartyp aitqanda, Atyraudaghy jaghday jabayylyq, túrpayylyq.  Biz - jetpis jyl boyy músylmandyqtan bezingen halyqpyz. Al tәuelsizdikting túsynda kelgen islam shólirkegen júrttyng berekesin aldy. Óitkeni bizde diny sauat nemese negiz bolmady: kim aitsa, soghan erdik. Qazaqtyng ózining últtyq dәstýri islam qaghidattaryna say keledi. Sondyqtan mektepterde imandylyqty arnayy oqytuymyz kerek. Juyrdaghy jyldardan beri mektepterde «Dinder negizderi» degen pәn oqytylyp jýr. Onyng ishine әlemdegi barlyq dinder men aghymdar kiripti. Al barlyq 36 saghattyq pәnning 12-si ghana islamgha arnalghan. Qazaqtyng balalaryna búddanyn, hristiannyng ne keregi bar, osyny týsinbedim? Jalpy bizding elde bәri keri isteledi... Óitkeni biyliktegilerding deni ateizmning shekpeninen shyqqandar. Onyng ýstine demokratiyanyng terisin teris jamylghandar dinge de demokratiya әkelmek bolyp, elding ishin әbden býldirdi. Býkil Almatydaghy shirkeulerding sany meshitterding sanynan kóp eken, sonda búl kimning qalasy?

Qazaqstanda islamdy nasihattaugha qolbaylau bolyp otyrghan taghy bir jaghday bar. Yaghni, zang boyynsha biz mektep nemese joghary oqu oryndaryna óz erkimizben baryp, sharighat aityp, islamdy týsindiru júmystaryn jýrgize almaymyz. Al shetelden oqyp kelgenderimiz jalpy qazaqstandyq músylmandargha shaqqanda, týkke túrmaydy.

Aydos SARYM,

Sayasattanushy:

- Atyraudaghy ózin-ózi jarghandar 23-24 jastaghy jigitter eken, búl neni kórsetedi? Meninshe, olar - tәuelsizdikting alghashqy jyldaryndaghy, yaghny ólaradaghy buyn. Onyng ýstine dinning oquyna jibergen jastarymyzdyng bilimi әrtýrli: ústanymdary birkelki emes, maqsattary bóten, bilimderi ala-qúla. Sonday-aq Atyraudaghy jaghdaygha baylanysty dindarlardyng artynda ýlken top, qarjy bar degen әngime aityluda...

Qazaq tumysynan mamyrajay halyq. Al bizdegi dinde jýrgen jigitterding týrine qarap imandylyqty bayqay almaysyzdar. Nege? Óitkeni, biz ózimizge qajetti aghymdy, yaghni, diny joldy taba almay adasyp jýrgen siyaqtymyz. Ábu-Hanifa mashabyn bәrimiz ústanyp jatqan joqpyz ghoy.

Keulimjan QUTTIYEV,

«Iman» jurnalynyng jauapty hatshysy:

- Payghambarymyz bir soghystan qaytyp bara jatyp, qyrylyp jatqan әskerlerining arasynan bireuin kórsetip «Mynau tozaqtyq!» deydi eken. Qasyndaghy sahabalary sebebin súraydy, el ýshin ólgen bozdaqtyqtyng tozaqtyghyn týsinbey. Sóitse, ol soghysta jaralanyp, azabyna shydamay, ózin-ózi óltirgen eken. Búl aradaghy aitpaghym, biz dindi dúrys týsinbey jәne basqalargha da dúrys týsindire almay otyrmyz. Sondyqtan da Atyraudaghy jankeshti jaghday oryn aldy. Qazaqtyng qay tarihyn alsanyz da, ózin-ózi jaryp óltirgen jankeshtilik bolmaghan. Dastan men ertegi jattap ósken balamyz ghoy, shahid pen jihadty ata-әjelerimizden eshqashan estigen emespiz.

Dayyndaghan -

Júqamyr ShÓKE,

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«Obshestvennaya pozisiya»

(proekt «DAT» № 38 (121) 09 qarasha 2011 jyl

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