Abdulghayym Kesiji, Europadaghy qazaq qoghamdary federasiyasynyng tóraghasy.

Ótken aptada Úlybritaniya astanasy Londonda Europadaghy qazaqtardyng dәstýrli kishi qúryltayy bolyp ótti. Europanyng 12 elinde shamamen 10 myngha juyq qazaq túrady. Jyl sayyn Europanyng bir qalasynda Kishi qúryltay ótkizu dәstýrge ainalghan.
Osy qúryltaylar qazaqtargha ana tili men salt-sanasyn janghyrtuda qanday roli atqaratyndyghy jayynda Europadaghy qazaq qoghamdary federasiyasynyng tóraghasy Abdulghayym Kesiji jәne Dýniyejýzi qazaqtary qauymdastyghynyng tóraghasy Talghat Mamashev myrzalarmen tildesken edik.

BASTY OIYMYZ – QAZAQ JASTARYNYNG BASYN QOSU

Abdulghayym Kesiji, Europadaghy qazaq qoghamdary federasiyasynyng tóraghasy.

Ótken aptada Úlybritaniya astanasy Londonda Europadaghy qazaqtardyng dәstýrli kishi qúryltayy bolyp ótti. Europanyng 12 elinde shamamen 10 myngha juyq qazaq túrady. Jyl sayyn Europanyng bir qalasynda Kishi qúryltay ótkizu dәstýrge ainalghan.
Osy qúryltaylar qazaqtargha ana tili men salt-sanasyn janghyrtuda qanday roli atqaratyndyghy jayynda Europadaghy qazaq qoghamdary federasiyasynyng tóraghasy Abdulghayym Kesiji jәne Dýniyejýzi qazaqtary qauymdastyghynyng tóraghasy Talghat Mamashev myrzalarmen tildesken edik.

BASTY OIYMYZ – QAZAQ JASTARYNYNG BASYN QOSU

- Abdulghayym myrza, Europada ótkizilip jatqan qúryltaylar nesimen manyzdy?
- Qúryltaygha әlemning týkpir-týkpirinen qazaqtar kelip, ózara didarlasyp, saghynyshtaryn basyp, bir jyrghap qaldy. Ásirese, Europanyng týkpir-týkpirinde jýrgen qazaq jastarynyng basyn qosuy – qúryltaydyng eng ýlken manyzy boldy. Sonday-aq, mәdeny baghdarlama óz dengeyinde ótti. Qazaqtyng әn-kýii shalqyp, myng búralghan biyshilerding ónerining әseri óte erekshe edi.
Jastar ýshin arnayy sheru úiymdastyryldy. 300-dey qazaq jasy Londonnyng eng kórikti kóshelerinde sheru jasap, qydyryp, tang atqansha seyil qúrdy.
- Ótkende Azattyq radiosyna súhbat bergen London qazaq qoghamynyng tóraghasy Ismail Kesiji qúryltaygha Singapurden de qazaq kelgendigi jayynda aityp edi. Alayda, forumda oghan kýmәn keltirushiler tabylyp jatyr. Siz osy aqparatty anyqtay alasyz ba?
- Qúryltaygha búghan deyin qazaghy bolmaghan ózge elderden de qazaqtar kelip qatysty. Olar Pәkistannan, Iordaniya men Singapurden jәne Beligiyadan. Búghan kýmәndanudyng qajeti joq.

QÚRYLTAYDA NAQTY ShEShIMDER QABYLDANBADY

- Abdulghayym myrza, Europa qazaqtarynyng ózekti problemalary retinde qazaq jastarynyng ana tilin úmytyp bara jatqandyghy, atamekenmen qarym-qatynas mәselesi jii aitylady. Osy tónirekte qanday naqty sheshimder qabyldandy?
- Búl mәsele Europa qazaq qoghamdary federasiyasynyng arnayy jinalysynda әngime boldy. Bolashaqta qanday sharalar men qyzmetter úiymdastyrylu mәselesi talqylandy. Búdan keyin ótken arnayy dóngelek ýstelde de osy әngime qozghaldy.
Negizgi qozghaghan mәselelerimiz - Europadaghy qazaq qoghamdarynyng Qazaqstandaghy tiyisti joghary oqu oryndary men qúzyrly ministrliktermen baylanys ornatyp, mýmkindik bolsa, jaz ailarynda jastardy Qazaqstangha is-tәjiriybeden ótkizuge qol jetkizu, jastardyng tilin syndyru sekildi tolghaqty dýniyeler.
Biraq, búl mәselede biz Qazaqstandaghy qúzyrly organdarmen әzirge naqty kelisimge kele alghan joqpyz. Bizding dóngelek ýsteldegi әngimelerimiz tek tilek, úsynys retinde ghana aityldy.
Dýniyejýzi qazaqtary qauymdastyghy ózderimen ala kelgen SD diskileri men sheteldegi qazaqtargha arnalghan kitaptaryn taratyp berdi.
Degenmen, atalghan problemalar tónireginde naqty sheshimder qabyldanghan joq. Tek bizding tarapymyzdan tilek-talaptar ortagha salynghany bolmasa, ony sheshuding naqty qadamdary jasalynghan joq.

BIZ ÓZ PROBLEMAMYZDY ÓZIMIZ ShEShETIN BOLAMYZ

- Al, Europadaghy qazaqtar problemasyn endi qalay sheshpek?
- Biz óz problemamyzdy ózimiz sheshudi qolgha alyp jatyrmyz. Biyl sәuir aiynda Munhende Europa qazaq diasporasy jastarynyng I konferensiyasyn ótkizdik. Búl jiyngha Qazaqstandaghy Bilim jәne ghylym ministrliginen, Qazaqstan halqy assambleyasynan, birneshe joghary oqu oryndary men ghylymy ortalyqtarynan ókilder keldi.
Búl konferensiyany – «Til, iydentifikasiya jәne integrasiya» dep atadyq. Onda jastardyng osy problemalargha baylanysty óz oiyn aitqyzyp, ony sheshuding joldaryn birlese izdeudi maqsat ettik. Dәl osynday konferensiyany Shvesiyanyng Vesteros qalasynda kýzde ótkizudi josparlap otyrmyz.

QÚRYLTAY ÓZ DENGEYINDE ÓTTI

- Talghat Asylúly, Londondaghy qúryltayda sheteldegi qazaqtar negizinen qanday mәselelerge kóbirek manyz berdi?

Talghat Mamashev, Dýniyejýzi qazaqtary qauymdastyghy tóralqa tóraghasynyng birinshi orynbasary.

- Londonda 45 qazaq otbasy ómir sýredi. Biraq, Qúryltaygha Europanyng 10 elinen 600-dey adam keldi. Qúryltay, meninshe, oidaghyday ótti. Bizding delegasiyamyz shaghyn bolsa da, dayyndyghymyz myghym boldy.
Birinshiden, preziydentting Joldauyn týrki tiline audaryp aparyp taratyp, nasihattadyq.
Ekinshiden, qazaq tilin ýirenuding jetildirilgen kompiuterlik jana baghdarlamasyn jasaghanbyz. Onyng 200 danasyn alyp baryp, әrbir qoghamgha 10-15-ten taratyp berdik. Endi ýiindegi kompiuterge salyp qoy da, qajet bolsa kóbeytip tarat. Balandy qazaqsha ýiretuding joly osy dedik.
Ýshinshiden, Qazaqstanda shyqqan jana kitaptardyng jana kórmesin apardyq. Onyng ishinde, balalargha arnalghan kitaptar kóbirek boldy. Kitaptardy elshilik pen qazaq qoghamdarynyng kitaphanasyna tapsyrdyq. Elshilikterding janynda qazaq tilin ýiretetin kurstar bar.
Europadaghy qazaqtardyng basty problemasy – til ghoy. Osyghan baylanysty, kóptegen mәseleni talqyladyq. Degenmen, qazaq qoghamdary qoldaghy mýmkindikti dúrys paydalana bilui kerek. Mәselen, әr elshilikting janynan qazaq tilin ýiretu kurstary ashylyp jatyr, bizding dayyndap bergen diskilerimizding ózi nege túrady!
- Talghat Asylúly, osy qúryltay jayynda Azattyq radiosynyng internettegi forumynda Qazaqstanda bolsyn, basqa elde bolsyn ótetin qúryltaygha delegattar qalay, qanday jolmen irikteledi, nege Qazaqstanda ótetin qúryltaygha qaltalylar barady, nege shettegi qoghamdarmen tandap júmys jasaydy degen pikirler aityldy. Búghan siz ne deysiz?.
- Búl Europadaghy qazaqtardyng qúryltayy. Qúryltaygha kimdi shaqyrghysy keledi, búl olardyng óz erki. Biyl Qúryltaygha túnghysh ret Mongholiyadan 5 qazaq kelip qatysypty. Búl joly Toghyzqúmalaq federasiyasynan adamdar shaqyrypty, «Jananúr» degen turistik firma qazaqtyng últtyq kiyimderining sәn ýlgilerin kórsetti.
Keybireuler ózderi internetten oqyp-bilip, óz betinshe barugha talap qylypty. Biz eshkimdi bóle-jaryp otyrghan joqpyz.
- Ángimenizge rahmet!

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