Ukraina preziydenti soghys bastalghannan beri Reseylik jurnalisterge alghash ret súhbat berdi. Bir jarym saghatqa sozylghan súhbat barysynda Zelenskiy ózekti súraqtardyng barlyghyna ashyq jauap berdi. Súhbattty Reseyde tyiym salynghan sayt ókilderi aldy. Olardyng ishinde Tihon Dzyadko, jurnalist Mihail Zygari, «Meduzanyn» bas redaktory Ivan Kolpakov pen «Kommersanttyn» tilshisi Vladimir Soloviev bar.

Al Resey biyligi atalmysh súhbatty jariyalamau kerektigin eskertip, tilshiler men saytqa arnayy eskertu jibergen. Reseyde ol ýshin qylmystyq jaza da berilui mýmkin. Reseyding Bas prokuraturasy atalmysh súhbatqa zang ayasynda bagha berip, tekseretinin aitty.

Sonymen Zelenskiyding aitqan manyzdy tezisterine toqtala ketsek. Zelenskiy soghysty toqtatugha qatysty bylay deydi:

«Adam shyghynyn azaytyp, soghystyng jyldam bituin qamtamasyz etip, Resey әskerin búrynghy ornyna, yaghny 24 aqpangha deyingi kezenge shygharudy qamtamasyz etu kerek. Kelgen jerine ketsin. Men territoriyamyzdy dәp qazir tolyq azat etu mýmkin emestigin týsinip otyrmyn, Reseydi oghan kóndiru mýmkin emes, ol ýshinshi dýniyejýzilik soghystyng bastaluy kerek edi. Men barlyghyn da jaqsy týsinip otyrmyn, men ózime esep beretin adammyn. Sondyqtan da men kompromiss jasaudy úsynyp kelemin. Shyghyndar, sosyn baryp Donbass mәselesin talqylaytyn bolamyz. Donbass óte auyr mәsele ghoy».

Osy arqyly Zelenskiy Resey әskerin óz aumaghynan shygharyp, Lugansk jәne Donesk mәselesin kelissóz arqyly sheshudi qúp kóretinin týsindirdi. Soghys bastalghaly beri Ukrainanyng ekonomikalyq shyghyny ondaghan milliard dollardy qúrady. Al bosyp ketken halyq 4 mlngha juyqtasa, qaza tapqan beybit túrghyndar sany 2 myngha jaqyn. Búl resmy mәlimetter, al beyresmy tipti kóp boluy mýmkin.

Zelenskiy Reseyding Ukraina Donbassqa shabuyl jasamaq boldy degen ótirigine de jauap berdi.

«Áriyne, eshqanday da shabuyl jasau jospary bolghan joq. Men talay mәrte territoriyamyzdy kýshpen qaytarmaytynymyzdy aitqan edim. Men sendermen keliskim keledi. Men týrli jolyn izdedim, Resey basyp kirgenshe san týrli jolyn qarastyrdym. Maghan sensenizder bolady», - dedi.

Al Resey soghys bastar aldynda «Kiyev Donbassqa shabuyl jasaydy» dep jalghan aqparatty barlyq arnalardan taratqan edi.

Ukraina basshysynyng sózinshe Resey ýlken qatelik jiberdi. Kremli strategiyalyq qatelik jasady. Ol turaly bylay deydi Zelenskiy:

«Men Resey basshylyghyna qanday mәlimet berilgenin, qalay esep jasaghanyn bilmedim. Mening oiymshy Reseylikterdi biz myna jaqta quana qarsy alamyz, qolymyzda bir qúshaq gýl, ezuimizde kýlki bolady dep esep berse kerek. Preziydentti eshkim qoldamaydy, basyp kirsek bolady dep bayandasa kerek. Men tura solay aitqanyna 99,9% senimdimin».

Zelenskiyding búl sózin batys sarapshylary da qúptap otyr. Sebebi Kremli 48 saghattyng ishinde Kiyevti alatynyn beyresmy mәlimdegen bolatyn, alayda soghys bastalghaly bir aidan asty, al Mәskeuding jospary jýzege aspady. Osynyng ózi Mәskeuge berilgen aqparattyng qate ekenin kórsetedi.

Zelenskiy Resey soghysqa balalardy jiberip jatqanyn da aitty.

«Biz mýrdelerdi saqtap otyrghymyz kelmeydi, biz ony qarsylas tarapqa berudi qalaymyz. Al reseylik tarap bolsa ony aludan bas tartty, keyin bir qap bere saldy. Bizding barlyghymyzdyng jaqyndarymyz ómirden ótetin sәt bolghan shyghar, tipti it pen mysyq ólse de búlay istemeydi ghoy. Al olar bolsa qoqys salatyn qaptardy berdi. Men adamdar ne oilap otyrghanyn, әsirese qaza tapqan sarbazdardyng ata anasy ne oilaytynyn esh týsine alar emespin. Búl óte súmdyq dep oilaymyn. Olar ózderine osynday kózqaraspen qarasa, ózgege qanday kózqaraspen qaraydy? Biz Resey ýshin jat, ózgemiz», - deydi Zelenskiy.

Resmy derek boyynsha Resey 1351 sarbazynan aiyrylghan, al beyresmy derek 16000 deydi.

Reseyding Ukrainagha soghys ashuynyng taghy bir sebebi «orys tili men orys әlemine degen qysymnyng artuy» degen jalghan aqparatty taratuy arqyly iske asty.

«Orys tiline eng ýlken ziyandy Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin jasady. Men ol orny tolmas qatelik jiberdi dep sanaymyn. Adamdar Reseyden tys jerde orys tilinde sóileuge úyalatyn bolady. Dәl solay bolady. Álemde agressor dep tanylghan basqynshynyng soghysynan keyin onday jaghdaylar kóp bolghan. Úzaq jyldar boyy solay bolady», - deydi ol.

Resey Ukrainada eng orystildi qalalar sanalatyn Harikov pen Mariupolidi tas-talqan etude.

Zelenskiy Resey qoyyp otyrghan denasifikasiya talabyna kónbeytinin, Qyrymdy soghyspen qaytarmaytynyn da aitty. 

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