Jaqynda Reseyding «Evraziyskiy dom» veb-sayty Qazaqstandaghy orystildi mektep múghalimderining assosiasiyasynyng tórayymy Nataliya Vdovinamen súhbatyn jariyalaghan edi. Búl tek qana bir adamnyng pikiri emes, belgili bir topqa әserin tiygizip, sózin ótkizip  otyrghan adamnyng súhbaty. Bayqap otyrsaq, elimizdegi slavyan úiymdary basshylarynyng súhbattary qazaq oqyrmandaryna jete bermeydi. Olardyng ishte jýrse bir sóz aityp, syrtqa shyqqanda mýldem basqa laghyp ketetin de jaqsy bilemiz. Osy sebepti de Vdovina hanymnyng súhbatyn qysqartyp bolsa da, audaryp bergendi jón sanadyq.

Súraq: Qazaqstandaghy orys mektepteri turaly aityp berinizshi. Statistikagha jýginetin bolsaq, osynday mektepterding sany azayyp, onda oqityn balalardyng sanynyng kýrt tómendep otyrghanyn óremiz. Búl nege baylanysty? Búl memleket basshylyghynyng sayasaty ma? Álde orys mektepteri halyqtyng kónilinen shyghyp bara ma?

Jaqynda Reseyding «Evraziyskiy dom» veb-sayty Qazaqstandaghy orystildi mektep múghalimderining assosiasiyasynyng tórayymy Nataliya Vdovinamen súhbatyn jariyalaghan edi. Búl tek qana bir adamnyng pikiri emes, belgili bir topqa әserin tiygizip, sózin ótkizip  otyrghan adamnyng súhbaty. Bayqap otyrsaq, elimizdegi slavyan úiymdary basshylarynyng súhbattary qazaq oqyrmandaryna jete bermeydi. Olardyng ishte jýrse bir sóz aityp, syrtqa shyqqanda mýldem basqa laghyp ketetin de jaqsy bilemiz. Osy sebepti de Vdovina hanymnyng súhbatyn qysqartyp bolsa da, audaryp bergendi jón sanadyq.

Súraq: Qazaqstandaghy orys mektepteri turaly aityp berinizshi. Statistikagha jýginetin bolsaq, osynday mektepterding sany azayyp, onda oqityn balalardyng sanynyng kýrt tómendep otyrghanyn óremiz. Búl nege baylanysty? Búl memleket basshylyghynyng sayasaty ma? Álde orys mektepteri halyqtyng kónilinen shyghyp bara ma?

Jauap: Búl súraqqa naqty jauap beru qiyn eken. Barlyghy da Qazaqstannyng naqty aimaghyna baylanysty der edim. Ontýstik aimaqtarda, әriyne, jergilikti halyq basym, orystildiler az ghana, sondyqtan ol jaqtaghy orys tiline degen súranys tómen. Al eger Qazaqstannyng soltýstik aimaqtaryn alatyn bolsaq, ondagha orystildi bilim alugha degen súranys azayghan joq. Bir nәrseni anyq aita alam: joghary jaqtan orys tilindegi sabaqtardy qysqartyndar degen tapsyrys joq. Negizinen kóp nәrse aimaqtardyng ózine baylanysty.  Orystildi mektepterge qatysty sayasat negizinen naqty aimaqtardy kimder basqaryp otyr, sol basshylardyng aimaqtyng damuyna degen kózqarasy men últaralyq qatynastardy qalay týsinetinine baylanysty. Alayda, statistika derekteri kórsetip otyrghanday, orystildi mektepterding sany azayyp keledi...

Basqa jaghynan qarasaq, men mynaday bir faktige nazar audarudy jón kórip otyrmyn. Qazaqstanda shamamen 125-126 jekemenshik elitalyq mektep bar. Olarda negizinen iri sheneunikter men biznesmenderding balalary bilim alady. Osy mektepterding barlyghynda derlik sabaqtar orys jәne aghylshyn tilderinde jýrgiziledi. Yaghni, elita óz balalarynyng orys tilin jaqsy mengergenin qalaydy.

Súraq: Orystildi mektep týlekterining ómirge beyimdeluine qatysty qanday problemalary bar? Olardyng kóbi qazaq tilin bilmeytin shyghar? Orystildi mektep týleterining qanday artyqshylyqtary ne bolmasa kemshilikteri bar? Jalpy alghanda Qazaqstandaghy orys metepterining bolashaghy bar ma?

Jauap: Orystildi halyq kóbinese elden ketuge qúshtar bolyp otyr. Ásirese jastar. Olar ýshin bilimdi qayda alu kerek, Resey me әlde shetelde me degen súraq joq, bastysy - elden ketu. Negizinen shekaralas sibir qalalaryna, uniyversiytet ortalyqtaryna, Reseyding ortalyq aimaqtaryna, al, mýmkindigi kelse, tipti shetel asyp ketuge tyrysady.

Al eger Qazaqstan ishindegi orystildi oqu oryndarynyng týlekterining bolashaghy turaly aitar bolsaq, taghy da statistikagha jýginuge tura keledi. Memlekettik qyzmettegi orystildilerding sany bes payyzdan aspaydy. Búl óte az. Bizne haqyna kelsek, men búl sala turaly oryndy derek aita almaymyn.

Ayta keteyin, Qazaqstanda bilikti mamandargha degen súranys óte joghary. Mysaly, býgingi kýni bizderge pedagogtar, oqytushylar jetispey jatyr. Mәsele býginning ózinde ushyghyp túr, al on jyldan keyin jaghday apat jaghdayyna jetui yqtimal. Sebebi orys tilinde sabaq beretin adamdar qalmaytyn siyaqty. Shyn mәnindegi bilikti múghalimderding kóbisi elden bayaghyda ketip qalghan, qalghandarynyng kóbisi zeynet jasynan jaqyndaghandar. Olar birneshe jyldan keyin zeynetke shyghady, al olardyng ornyn toltyrar eshkim joq...

Súraq: Jana siz aityp qaldynyz, bilim alghysy keletinderding kóbisi Resey emes, shetelge baryp oqyghysy keledi dep. Sonda Resey olar ýshin qyzyqty emes pe?

Jauap: Qiyn súraq. Mysaly, reseylikterding ózi nege Angliyagha, AQSh-qa ne bolmasa Fransiyagha baryp oqyghandy qalaydy?.. Qazaqstandyqtar da sol siyaqty. Qolynan kelgender shetelge baryp oqidy. Býgingi tanda Qytaygha baryp oqushylardyng sany artyp eledi. Bәlkim, osy baghyttyng bolashaghy bar deytin shyghar. Qazaqstan men Qytay arasyndaghy qarym-qatynastardyng qarqyny keremet. Sondyqtan bolar studentterding birazy tikeley Pekinge baryp oqyp jýr...

Súraq: Qazaqstandaghy jastardyng ishinde qazaq tilin bilmeytinder bar ma?

Qazaq tilin tek qana túrmystyq, tipti túrpayy tilde mengergen jastar kóp. Jalpy alghanda, balalardy memlekettik standarttar boyynsha birinshi synyptan bastap oqytady. Ony ýirenuge bólingen saghattar sany da jaman emes. Besinshi synyptan bastap qazaq әdebiyeti qazaq tilinde ýiretiledi. Degenmen basqa týgil, jastar arasyndaghy qazaq tilin mengeru qarqyny nashar. Búny nemen týsindiru kerek ekenin men bile almay otyrmyn, mýmkin jaqsy oqulyqtar, әdistemelik qúraldar az shyghar.

Súraq: Qazaq tilin bilmeytinden belgili bir qiyndyqtargha tap bola ma? Ol qiyndyqtar qanday?

Jauap: Eger, býgingi kýni aitylyp jatqanday, eldegi is qaghazdardy jýrgizu tolyghymen qazaq tiline kóshirilse, onda siz aityp otyrghan qiyndyqtar bar salada oryn alady. Qazaq tilin mengermegender elden ketetin shyghar. Ony olardyng ózderi de jaqsy týsinedi. Eger statistika derekterine kóz salsaq, 1990-shy jyldary oryn alghan Qazaqstannan jappay kóshi 2000-shy jyldary bәsendegenin kóremiz. Býgingi kýni búl ýrdister qayta bastalyp, kóshi-qon kórsetkishteri artyp keledi.

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