Elimizde әlemdik dengeyde moyyndalghan bilikti әri kәsiby joghary oqu oryndary jeterlik. Mine, sonday túghyry biyik, joghary oqu oryndarynyng biri  – Shoqan Uәlihanov uniyversiyteti, Abay atyndaghy QazÚPU uniyversiyteti, Abylay han atyndaghy Qazaq halyqaralyq qatynastar jәne әlem tilderi uniyversiyteti men Nazarbaev uniyversiyteti desek esh qatelespeymiz.

Qazaqtyng  úly biyleushisinin, aqiyq aqynynyn, daryndy ghalymynyng jәne elbasynyng esimin arqalaghan búl irgeli oqu oryndaryna jyl sayyn әlemning týkpir-týkpirinen sheteldik studentter kelip,  bagha jetpes qazynaly bilim aluda.  Mәselen, Gunvat Patil – Shoqan Uәlihanov uniyversiytetining medisina fakulitetinin; Fransiska Aytiy(Ayitey) Nazarbaev uniyversiytetining bilim beru kóshbasshylyghy baghdarlamasynyng jәne Qabdyl Maghjan Bauyrjanúly  Abylay han atyndaghy Qazaq halyqaralyq qatynastar jәne әlem tilderi uniyversiytetining mandayaldy týlegi. Qazirgi tanda olar dәl osy uniyversiytetterde oqularyn әri qaray oidaghyday sәtti jalghastyruda. Biz Fransiska Ayti,  Gunvant Khasherao Patil jәne  Polishada bilim alyp jatqan qazaqstandyq Erasyl Álimjan men Qytay eline biyl tolyqtay tegin oqu grantyn útyp alghan Qabdyl Maghjan  Bauyrjanúly myrzamen qazaqstandaghy oqu men ómir jayynda keleli súhbat qúrghan edik. Ásirese, súhbat barasynda biz Gunvant Patil myrzadan Ýndistanda qasiyetti nauryz merekesine úqsas meyram baryn bildik. Búl biz ýshin tosyng әri tyng janalyq boldy. Endi sol manyzdy aqparatpen ózderinizben barynsha jyldam bólissek deymiz. Aldarynyzgha tómendegi súhbatty quana-quana úsynamyz.

–  Qazaqtyng birtuar aqyny Qasym Amanjolov «Ózge emes, ózim aitamyn óz jayymda, jýregim jalyn atqan sóz dayynda» degendey, kópshilikke ózderinizdi taghy bir ret kenirek tanystyryp ótsenizder.

Suret: Avtordyng jeke arhiyvinen alyndy.

Gunvant Patiyl:

–  Mening nyspym Gunvant Khasherao Patiyl.  Biyl jiyrma tórt jasty enserip, jana mýshel jasqa shyqtym. Ýndistan memleketining eng iri industriyalyq әri mәdeny ortalyqtarynyng biri sanalatyn Maharashtra shtatynyng әsem de kórikti Kolhapur qalasynanmyn. Negizinde mening tuylghan auylym – Aytvade Hurd. Búl  – Varana ózenining boyynda ornalasqan,  aynalasy jasyl jelekke toly, túmsa tabighaty kóztartarlyq erekshe әdemi auyl. Balalyq shaghymnyng basym kópshiligi Kolhapur qalasynda ótti. Besinshi synyptan bastap sapaly bilim alu ýshin Maharashtra shtatynyng әrtýrli shaharlarynda: Kolhapur, Sangly jәne Latur qalalarynyng jataqhanalarynda túryp, barymdy salyp oqydym. Kolhapur  qalasynda býginde 2001 jinaq boyynsha 400-den asa túrghyn túrady. Qala ózining mәdeny ortalyqtarymen kópshilikke tanymal. Atap aitqanda, Panhala qamaly, Djyotiba ghibadathanasy, jasyryn sarqyramalar, Mahalakshmy ghibadathanasy jәne taghy da basqa kóptegen tarihy әri kórikti jerler bar. Búl tarihy oryndargha mindetti týrde óz kózderinizben kóruge kenes berer edim.

Qazaqstanda bilim alu men ýshin ómirimdegi eng manyzdy sheshimderding biri boldy. Ásirese, kәsiby bilikti dәriger bolu maqsatynda sheteldik bilim maghan tendesiz tәjiriybe men taptyrmas mýmkindik syilady dep nyq senimmen aita alamyn. Shoqan Uәlihanov uniyversiytetin tandaghanyma esh ókinbeymin. Uәlihanov uniyversiyteti mening asqaq armanymdy jýzege asyrudaghy alghashqy baspaldaq pen ómirlik mektep boldy. Sondyqtan uniyversiytetke bergen ozyq tәjiriybesi men telegey teniz bilimine aitar alghysym sheksiz.

Suret: Avtordyng jeke arhiyvinen alyndy.

Maghjan QABDYL:

–  Biyl men ýshin asa quanyshty janalyqtardyng biri – Qytay Halyq Respublikasynyng Hanchjou qalasyndaghy Hangzhou Dianzi University uniyversiytetine magistraturagha týsuim boldy. Atalmysh uniyversiytette English Language and Literature, yaghni, «Aghylshyn tili jәne әdebiyeti» baghyty boyynsha tegin bilim alamyn. Búl men ýshin ómirimdegi eng manyzdy sheshimderding biri. Óitkeni bakalavriatta alghan aghylshyn tili múghalimi baghytyndaghy bilimimdi әri qaray oidaghyday jalghastyryp, ony akademiyalyq túrghydan terendetkim keledi.

Eng bastysy, uniyversiytetke tolyq grant negizinde qabyldandym. Grant ayasynda Qytaydaghy oqu aqysy men jataqhana shyghyndary tolyghymen jabylady. Meninshe, múnday mýmkindik  studentter ýshin tek qarjylyq qoldau ghana emes, ózine artylghan ýlken jauapkershilik. Sebebi memleket nemese uniyversiytet tarapynan berilgen mýmkindikti nәtiyjeli paydalanyp, alghan bilimindi keyin óz eline payda әkeletindey baghytta qoldana bilu kerek.

Suret: Avtordyng jeke arhiyvinen alyndy.

Fransiska AYTIY:

– Men jana nәrselerdi ýirenuge, adamdarmen tanysugha jәne әngimelesu arqyly týrli mәdeniyetter arasynda tyghyz baylanys ornatugha qyzyghatyn, ashyq-jarqyn adammyn. Bilim beru, tehnologiya hәm adamdardyng bir-birin jaqsyraq týsinuine yqpal etetin mýmkindikterdi izdeu salalaryna qatty qyzyghushylyq tanytamyn. Ózim batys Afrikanyng Atlant múhityna jaqyn ornalasqan tarih pen әrtýrli mәdeniyet bir arnada toghysqan, tropikalyq tabighatqa bay ólkesi Gana memleketinenmin. Gana qazirgi tanda otyz bes milliongha juyq túrghyna bar, tarihy terennen tamyr tartatyn, tәuelsiz memleket. Elimizding soltýstik aimaghy savannalar men ontýstigi tropikalyq ormandargha bay.  Sonday-aq, men qazirgi uaqytta Ortalyq Aziyadaghy eng ýzdik joghary oqu oryndarynyng biri – Nazarbaev Uniyversiytetining týlegimin. Nazarbaev uniyversiytetining týlegi bolghanyma óte quanyshtymyn jәne ony erekshe maqtan tútamyn. Óitkeni Nazarbaev uniyversiyteti jogharyda atap ótkenimdey, Ortalyq Aziyadaghy eng ýzdik joghary oqu oryndarynyng biri.

– Nelikten dәl osy uniyversiytetti tandanyzdar? Búnday biregey sheshimge kelulerinizge ne sebep boldy?

Gunvant PATIYL:

– Qazaqstan turaly nemere aghamnan estidim. Men Qazaqstannan shyqqan UFC sportshysy Shavkat Rahmonovty biletinmin. Osynda kelgen song Qazaqstan tarihy men mәdeniyeti turaly kóp maghlúmat aldym. Mening tabighaty Shveysariyany eske salatyn shaghyn da kórikti Kókshetau qalasyndaghy Shoqan Uәlihanov uniyversiytetin tandauymnyng basty sebebi – uniyversiytet medisinalyq bilim beru salasynda ózining sapaly akademiyalyq bilimi men tendesiz tәjiriybesin úsynady. Dәl osy manyzdy sheshimdi qabyldamastan búryn men jergilikti uniyversiytet pen kampus ómiri jayynda beyne-materialmen etene jaqyn tanysyp shyqtym. Uniyversit ómiri jayyndaghy beyne-material meni shalqar shabyttandyryp, Qazaqstangha keluime negizgi sebep boldy.

Fransiska AYTIY:

– Nazarbaev Uniyversiytetin joghary akademiyalyq bedeli, halyqaralyq yntymaqtastyqqa erekshe mәn beretini jәne Ortalyq Aziyanyng jýreginde tereng bilim alu mýmkindigi bolghany ýshin tandadym. Qazaqstannyng aimaqtaghy bilim, ghylym jәne diplomatiya salalaryndaghy rólining jyl sanap artyp kele jatqany kónil quantady. Nazarbaev Uniyversiytetindegi aghylshyn tilinde bilim beru sayasaty (EMI) da mening tandauyma tikeley ong әser etti. Búl sayasat sheteldik jәne jergilikti studentterge bilim alugha keng mýmkindik berip, oqu ýderisindegi tildik kedergilerdi azaytady.

Maghjan QABDYL:

– Hangzhou Dianzi University meni eng aldymen halyqaralyq ortada bilim alugha mýmkindik beretin uniyversiytet retinde qyzyqtyrdy. Uniyversiytetting halyqaralyq studenttermen júmys isteytin arnayy mektebi bar jәne oqu ornynda sheteldik studentterge arnalghan aghylshyn tilindegi baghdarlamalar úsynylady. Men ýshin Qytayda magistratura oqu jana bilim alu ghana emes, ózimdi kәsiby jәne túlghalyq jaghynan synap kóruding jana kezeni. Ártýrli elderden kelgen studenttermen birge oqu arqyly basqa mәdeniyetterdi, bilim beru tәsilderin jәne akademiyalyq ortany jaqynyraq tanugha mýmkindik alamyn degen oidamyn.

Erasyl ÁLIMJAN:

–  Polishadaghy bilim beru – erikti týrde ótedi. Ol jerdegi akademik múghalimder – studentterding jan dosy sekildi. Ýiretetin zattarynyng bәrin shynayy ómirden alyp, mysal keltirip týsindiredi. Polishany tandauymnyng basty sebebi – qazirgi tanda naryqty damyp jatqan Europa elderining biri bolghandyqtan. Naryqqa beyimdelgen bilim beru jýiesi – eshqashan óz qúndylyghyn joghaltpaydy. Qazaqstandaghy oqu oryndary da naryqqa beyimdelgen telegey teniz bilim beredi. Búghan modulidik bilim beru baghdarlamalaryn mysal retinde qarastyrugha әbden bolady.

– Memlekettik tildi qanshalyqty jetik bilesizder? Qazaq tilin ýirenip jýrsizder me? Kýndelikti ómirde qazaqsha qanday da bir filim nemese telehikaya tamashalaysyzdar ma?

Fransiska AYTIY:

– IYә, qazaq tilin birtindep ýirenip jýrmin. Men әzirge birneshe qarapayym sózder men sóz tirkesterin ghana bilemin: Sәlemetsiz be? – Hello, raqmet – Thank you, jaqsy – Good. Sonymen qatar, birneshe qazaqstandyq filimdi kórgen edim. Olar maghan Qazaqstannyng tarihyn, qúndylyqtaryn jәne tabighatyn terenirek tanugha әri týsinuge kómektesti.

Gunvant PATIYL:

– Men әzirge qazaq tilin әli tolyq jetik dengeyde mengergen joqpyn, biraq negizgi sózder men kýndelikti qoldanylatyn sóz tirkesterin ýirenuge tyrysyp jýrmin. Shoqan Uәlihanov uniyversiytetinde maghan qazaq tilinen Anar Aytkaliyevna hanym óte joghary dengeyde sabaq berdi. Ol óte jaqsy adam әri keremet ústaz. Basynda bәrimiz sózderdi dúrys aitpaytynbyz, sondyqtan bir-birimizding qate aitqanymyzgha әzildesip, mәz bolyp kýletinbiz.  Biraq keyin ústazymyzdyng sheberligining jәne kәsiby biliktiligining arqasynda biraz sózderdi dúrys ýirenip, qazaqsha sóiley bastadyq. Ústazyma aitar alghysym sheksiz. Aytpaqshy, men Kókshetaudaghy «Siynema» kinoortalyghynan «Akvamendi» ýndistandyq dostarymmen birge tolyqtay qazaq tilinde kórgenmin. Filim maghan jәne ýndistandyq dostaryma erekshe әser syilady. Qazaqsha núsqasy maghan qatty únady. Áli de qazaq tilinde filimder kóptep kórgim keledi.

– Qazaqtyng úly aqyny Abay Qúnanbayúly:  «Kúlaqtan kirip, boydy alar, jaqsy әn men tәtti kýi. Kónilge týrli oy salar, әndi sýisen, menshe sýi» dep beker aitpasa kerek. Qazaq tilinde әnder tyndaysyzdar ma? Qanday qazaqsha әnderdi bilesizder? 

Gunvant PATIYL:

– Qazirgi kezde qazaq tilinde muzyka tyndau men ýshin jergilikti mәdeniyetpen tanysudyng eng sýiikti әri bagha jetpes tәsiline ainaldy. Án aitqandy erekshe jaqsy kóremin jәne muzykagha qyzyghushylyghym óte joghary. Osy uaqytqa deyin men 2-3 qazaq әnin oryndadym, sonyng ishinde úly aqyn Abay Qúnanbayúlynyng «Kózimning qarasy» atty ghajap әni de bar. Sonymen qatar, men qazirgi qazaq muzykasyn tyndaghandy únatamyn. Ásirese, Adam oryndaghan «Jýrek» әni –mening sýiikti әnderimning biri.

Fransiska AYTIY:

– Qazaq muzykasyn ýnemi tyndaymyn dep aita almaymyn, biraq qazaq mәdeny is-sharalaryna qatysqan kezde kóptegen qazaq әnderin estiymin. Ánderding maghynasyn әrdayym týsine bermesem de, qazaq tilining әuezdiligi maghan óte qatty únaydy. Ásirese, dombyranyng ýnin erekshe únatamyn. Dombyradan shyqqan әrbir әsem әuendi tyndaghandy jaqsy kóremin. Búl maghan shalqar shabyt pen oqugha bagha jetpes motivasiya syilaydy.

– Qazaqtyng últtyq meyramdary turaly ne bilesizder? Nauryz meyramyna qatysyp kórdinizder me?

Suret: Avtordyng jeke arhiyvinen alyndy.

Gunvant PATIYL:

– Qazaqstangha kelmey túryp, onyng tarihy turaly kóp nәrse bilmeytin edim. Biraq qazir bәri basqasha. Men jyl sayyn qazaqstandaghy Nauryz meyramyna qatysamyn, jergilikti túrghyndarmen, dostarymmen birge quana-quana Nauryzdy toylaymyn. Aytpaqshy, bizde, Ýndistanda búghan úqsas Gudy Padva degen mereke bar. Gudy Padva – marathy halqynyng jana jyly, yaghni, qasiyetti merekesi. Ol ýndi kýntizbesindegi Chaytra aiynyng alghashqy kýninde (nauryz–sәuir ailarynda) atap ótiledi. Búl mereke kóktemning keluin, jana bastamalardy jәne әlemning jaratyluyn bildiredi. Mereke tanerteng ýidi tazalaudan bastalady. Adamdar týrli-týsti rangoly órnekterin salyp, nauryz meyramyndaghyday jana kiyim kiyedi jәne puran-poli, shrikhand siyaqty dәstýrli merekelik taghamdar dayyndaydy. Gudy tuy – ýiding syrtyna jenisti, sәttilikti bildiretin jәne jamandyqtan qorghaytyn simvol retinde ilinedi.

Nauryz merekesi men Gudy Padva merekesi arasynda úqsastyqtar óte kóp. Mәselen, eki mereke de erte kóktemde, nauryzdyng sony nemese sәuir ailarynda atap ótiledi jәne ekeui de jana jyldyng bastaluyn, tabighattyng janaruyn, auyl sharuashylyghy kezenining bastaluyn bildiredi. Sondyqtan Nauryzdy toylau maghan erekshe qatty únaydy. Óitkeni nauryzdy toylau arqyly ózimdi ýiimde jýrgendey asa baqytty sezinemin.

– Qazaqstandaghy oqu sizderge ne berdi? Atalmysh uniyversiytetterdegi bilim beru jýiesi nesimen erekshelenedi? Bolashaqta oqularynyzdy osynda jalghastyru oilarynyzda bar ma?

Suret: Avtordyng jeke arhiyvinen alyndy.

Maghjan QABDYL:

– Qazaqstandaghy uniyversiytettik bilim mening kәsiby jәne bilikti maman retinde qalyptasuyma óte kóp mýmkindik berdi. Men ýshin uniyversiytetting basty artyqshylyghy – teoriyalyq bilimmen qatar, alghan bilimdi is jýzinde qoldanugha mýmkindik beretin tәjiriybege basymdyq berilui. Ásirese, men bilim alghan Abylay han atyndaghy Qazaq halyqaralyq qatynastar jәne әlem tilderi uniyversiytetin erekshe atap ótkim keledi. Búl oqu orny elimizde tilderdi tereng әri sapaly oqytatyn joghary oqu oryndarynyng biri retinde búrynnan tanymal.  Uniyversiytet qabyrghasynda alghan bilimimdi týrli halyqaralyq ortada synap kóruge mýmkindik aldym. Eki jyl qatarynan halyqaralyq mektep ISA-da tәjiriybeden ótip, óz kursymnyng ýzdik studenti retinde praktikadan óttim, sonymen qatar, Qyrghyzstannyng Osh memlekettik uniyversiytetining akkreditasiyalau júmysyna student-ekspert retinde qatystym. OIC-15 halyqaralyq is-sharasynda Indoneziya delegasiyasynyng liaison officer-i qyzmetin atqaryp, “Qazqútqaru-2023” halyqaralyq qútqaru kópsayysynda Vengriya men Týrkiya ókilderine audarmashylyq jasadym.

Osynday ozyq tәjiriybeler men uniyversiytette alghan telegey teniz tereng bilim tek auditoriyada qalyp qoymay, naqty ortada qoldanylghan kezde ghana shynayy qúndylyqqa ainalatynyn kórsetti. Sondyqtan uniyversiytet maghan eng aldymen bilim ghana emes, halyqaralyq ortada júmys isteu, týrli mәdeniyettermen kommunikasiya jasau jәne ózimdi kәsiby túrghydan synau mýmkindigin berdi.

Qazir bilimimdi shetelde, Qytaydyng Hanchjou qalasyndaghy Hangzhou Dianzi University uniyversiytetinde «English Language and Literature» baghyty boyynsha magistraturada jalghastyrghaly otyrmyn. Búl da uniyversiytette qalyptasqan kәsiby baghytymnyng zandy jalghasy dep oilaymyn. 

Suret: Avtordyng jeke arhiyvinen alyndy.

Erasyl ÁLIMJAN:

– Abay atyndaghy Qazaq últtyq pedagogikalyq uniyversiyteti – bilimge qúshtar, jaqsy janalyqqa beyim, talapshyl studentterge óte kóp mýmkindik beredi. Sheteldegi kóshbasshy uniyversiytettermen diplomatikalyq qarym-qatynasy joghary dengeyde. Aghylshyn tilin bilu dengeyin dәleldeytin  «IELTS» sertifikaty bolghan jaghdayda, uniyversiytet shetelge 1-shi kurstan bastap jiberedi. Barlyghy da studentting óz ynta-jigerine tikeley baylanysty. Oqu oqyp, kókjiyegimdi keneytemin desen, eshkim qolynan qaqpaydy. Qayta qanatyng berik bolsyn dep, biyikke samghanuyna kómektesedi.

Gunvant PATIYL:

– Qazaqstandaghy oqu – men ýshin tendesiz әri erekshe tәjiriybe boldy. Búndaghy qonaqjaylyq pen qolayly klimattyng arqasynda men ózimdi tughan ýiimde jýrgendey baqytty sezindim. Áriyne, men Kolhapurdan kelgendikten, basynda qalanyng aua-rayyna birden ýirenisip ketu onaylyqqa soqpady. Alayda uaqyt óte kele, men Kókshetaudyng qysyna qalay erekshe bauyr basyp ketkenimdi ózimde bayqamay qaldym. Búndaghy ómirdi erekshelendiretin basty nәrse –jergilikti túrghyndardyng qonaqjaylyghy. Óitkeni men búl jaqqa jasóspirim bala retinde kelip, mine, ereksek adam retinde ketip baramyn. Búl uaqyt aralyghynda men túlgha retinde ósip qana qoymay, Kókshetau qalasynyng az uaqyt ishinde qalay tez damyp әri jyldam ózgerip ýlgirgenin bayqadym.

Fransiska AYTIY:

– Qazaqstanda bilim aludyng basty ereksheligi – múnda dәstýr men zamanauilyqtyng ýilesimdi úshtasuynda. Oqu ýderisi jaqsy úiymdastyrylghan, oqytushylar óz júmysyna asa jauapkershilikpen qaraydy. Al kópmәdeniyetti orta studentke tek auditoriyada ghana emes, odan tys jerde de bilim alugha mýmkindik beredi. Sheteldik oqytushylardyng kóp boluy da bilim beru ýderisine ózindik әrtýrlilik engizip, studentterge oqytudyng týrli tәsilderimen etene tanysugha mýmkindik beredi. IYә, men bolashaqta Qazaqstanda qaytadan bilim aludy óz josparymda mindetti týrde qarastyrar edim. Qazaqstannyng ózindik tәjiriybesi men kóptegen mәselelerge degen erekshe kózqarasy bar. Búl tәjiriybe zertteuge layyq jәne basqa elderge de ýlgi bola alady dep oilaymyn.

– Bolashaqta Qazaqstan men sheteldik oqu oryndary arasyndaghy baylanysty úlghaytu ýshin qanday da bir jobany qolgha alghylarynyz, yaki, jýzege asyrghylarynyz kele me?

Maghjan QABDYL:

– Áriyne, múnday josparlarym bar. Qazir men ózimning bilim beru jolymdy halyqaralyq baghytta jalghastyrudy josparlap otyrmyn. Aldaghy uaqytta Qytaydaghy magistraturamnan keyin Europada taghy bir magistratura oqyp, keyin doktoranturany AQSh-ta jalghastyrudy maqsat etip otyrmyn. Áriyne, búl – úzaq merzimdi jospar, sondyqtan oghan jetu ýshin әli de kóp tynbay enbek etu kerek.

Men ýshin shetelde bilim alu – búl tek sheteldik birneshe diplom alyp, qorjyngha jinau degen sóz emes. Ár eldegi akademiyalyq ortany, bilim beru jýiesin jәne ghylymy tәjiriybeni tanyp, keyin sol tәjiriybeni Qazaqstanmen baylanystyru men ýshin óte manyzdy. Qay elde bilim alsam da, Qazaqstanmen baylanysty ýzbey, halyqaralyq ortada elimizding bilim beru salasyn tanystyryp, kerisinshe, әlemdegi ozyq tәjiriybeni Qazaqstangha alyp keluge tyrysqym keledi. Bolashaqta Qazaqstandaghy jәne sheteldegi studentter men jas mamandardy baylanystyratyn halyqaralyq bilim beru jobasyn qolgha alghym keledi. Onyng ayasynda akademiyalyq almasu, ortaq zertteu júmystary, halyqaralyq onlayn kezdesuler, tildik klubtar, taghylymdamalar jәne bilim beru salasyndaghy tәjiriybe almasu baghyttaryn damytugha bolady.

Mening oiymsha, býgingi tanda әlem men Qazaqstan arasyndaghy baylanysty kýsheytuding eng tiyimdi joldarynyng biri – jastar men bilim arqyly kópir qalyptastyru. Ózim shetelde bilim alyp, halyqaralyq ortada tәjiriybe jinaqtaghan sayyn Qazaqstannyng da әlemdik bilim kenistiginde óz ornyn odan әri nyghayta alatynyna senimim artyp keledi. Sondyqtan úzaq merzimdi maqsatym – qay jerde bilim alsam da, Qazaqstandy halyqaralyq akademiyalyq ortamen baylanystyratyn «kópir» bolu. Men ýshin shetelge shyghudyng mәni – tek ózing ýshin mýmkindik izdeu emes, sol mýmkindikterding esigin keyin Qazaqstandaghy basqa jastar ýshin de ashu. 

Suret: Avtordyng jeke arhiyvinen alyndy.

Gunvant PATIYL:

– Bolashaqta Ýndistan men Qazaqstan arasyndaghy tyghyz baylanysty nyghaytugha baghyttalghan biregey jobalargha qatysqym nemese ózim osynday iygi bastamalardy jýzege asyrghym keledi. Eki mәdeniyetti etene jaqyndastyru –  densaulyq saqtau salasyndaghy tyng jobalar, studenttermen ózara ozyq tәjiriybe almasu baghdarlamalary nemese qanday da bir mәdeny is-sharalar arqyly bolsyn – men ýshin tughan elim Ýndistannyng jәne mening kәsiby qalyptasuyma ýlken әser etken Qazaqstannyng damuyna óz ýlesimdi qosudyng manyzdy joly bolar edi.

Erasyl ÁLIMJAN:

– Abay Qúnanbayúlynyng «Sen de - bir kirpish, dýniyege tetiging tap ta, bar qalan!» degen naqyl sózin algha tarta otyryp,  men bilim beru salasynda qajyrly enbek etkim keledi. Bolashaqta alpauyt sheteldik uniyversiytetterding birine oqugha týsip, sol jaqta birer jyl júmys istep, tәjiriybe jinaqtasam degen oiym bar. Sóitip, alghan sheteldik ozyq bilimim men tәjiriybemdi elde bólisu arqyly Qazaqstangha óz ýlesimdi qosqym keledi.

Fransiska AYTIY:

–  IYә, әriyne. Men mәdeniyetter men halyqtar arasynda baylanys ornatudyng manyzdylyghyna nyq senemin. Qazaqstan men mening tughan elim Ganganyng túrghyndary bir-biri turaly kóbirek bilip, tәjiriybe almasuyna mýmkindik beretin studenttik almasu, bilim beru jәne mәdeny is-sharalargha baylanysty jobalargha qatysqym keledi. Bir-birimizdi neghúrlym jaqsy týsinsek, yntymaqtastyghymyz da soghúrlym nyghaya týsedi.

Súhbat ýshin ýlken raqmet! Óz tәjiriybemmen bólisu men ýshin zor qúrmet jәne ýlken mәrtebe boldy. Qazaqstan maghan qazirding ózinde kóp nәrse berdi. Endi men de osy elge óz ýlesimdi qosyp, bolashaqta óz elim men Qazaqstan arasyndaghy baylanysty nyghayta týskim keledi. Búl eki el arasyndaghy baylanysty úlghaytugha kóp septigin tiygizedi dep oilaymyn.

– Ángimelerinizge kópten kóp rahmet!

Súhbattasqan, Altynshash Qúrmanaeva,

№2 mektep-liyseyining qazaq tili múghalimi. Kókshetau qalasy.